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A lot of speculating going on

A lot of speculating going on

It seems that advocates for county administrator are doing a lot of speculating about the voters true intentions when they voted down Measure 6-144. The paper, for example, asserts that because winning candidates favored the measure then by association the voters secretly, in their heart of hearts, DO want an administrator. The paper writes, “…voters rejected the …appointment of a county administrator, while electing two commissioners” who campaigned in favor of abdicating their duties to a hired employee.

This is commonly known as an association fallacy.

File:Venn-diagram-association-fallacy-01In notation of first-order logic, this type of fallacy can be expressed as (∃x ∈ S : φ(x)) → (∀x ∈ S : φ(x)), meaning “if there exists any x in the set S so that a property φ is true for x, then for all x in S the property φ must be true.”
Premise A is a B
Premise A is also a C
Conclusion Therefore, all Bs are Cs
The fallacy in the argument can be illustrated through the use of an Euler diagram: “A” satisfies the requirement that it is part of both sets “B” and “C”, but if one represents this as an Euler diagram, it can clearly be seen that it is possible that a part of set “B” is not part of set “C”, refuting the conclusion that “all Bs are Cs”.

The paper asks how “reform-minded leaders” might “continue to pursue change without appearing to ignore the people’s voice”? Then answers the question by turning to a biased, incredible report from pro administrator consultants to enable the commissioners to hire someone for the position by calling it something else. (Slap a saddle on that jackass and call it a racehorse – [thanks aghast!]).

Regardless of their stance on an administrator and what they ultimately campaigned for, John Sweet and Melissa Cribbins signed up and ran for the job of a full time, working, paid commissioner. Voters are long familiar with the job and have their own expectations of what it takes to be a commissioner. It is reasonable to accept that voters rejected the measure without ambiguity. It is reasonable to consider voters believed Sweet and Cribbins were the best qualified to fulfill their expectations and without hiring finance directors and chief administrative officers. After all, reform may be nice and even improve efficiency but it doesn’t solve the underlying problem… revenue.

Seventy percent of the county’s private property is taxed on “special assessments” that greatly reduce the taxable value and thereby lower the effective rates of these larger property owners. These special assessments also deprive the local taxing districts of badly needed revenue. If Sweet and Cribbins are really reform-minded perhaps they might want to tackle that problem.

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11 Responses to "A lot of speculating going on"

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    magix  January 10, 2013 at 8:41 AM

    Al betrays his own ignorance with his question/challenge to SusanP. He also provides yet another strong affirmation of why the structure advisory majority report isn’t valid. If he can’t see how decisions at the county level effect everyone, including him, then he is even more blinded by his ideology than previously thought.

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      TonyCapo  January 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

      It is an interesting phenomenon that those so ideologically afflicted cannot see themselves as radical activists.

  2. susanp  January 9, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Thanks Al. I needed that. The sheriff is seldom seen in my neighborhood. Andy published a list of what must happen to get a response to requests for help and it has gone downhill from there. Do not see my statement as vieled threat. See it as direct promise. The commissioners are my employees and employees of the other 63,000 + in the county. I hired a full time commissioner who was well aware of the published job description. I expect to receive no less than full time service and complete compliance with the identified functions and responsibilities of a county commissioner. Why would you? I do not expect her to be the voice of the soverign nation tribe either. The triad should move onto subjects other than county manager; there are plenty for their remedy.

  3. The Reminder  January 9, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Thats one. Now its about time for the other one to stick his head up.

    Susan, it seems that he can read, but not comprehend what he is reading.

  4. al  January 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Two days into the job and already talking recall? Take a Valium and a deep breath, Susan. Your world won’t fall apart anytime soon as a result of County decisions. In fact, name one thing about your life that has changed in the past two – even four – years as a result of the County. Just one. Garbage stacking up? Can’t get a deputy when you need one? Email not coming through? Keep things in perspective. All this angst over something that doesn’t impact you one tiny bit.

    • Linski  January 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

      Does Valium solve all your problems al ?

      Bikers do LOVE THEIR DRUGS……. you need to get some help.

  5. The Reminder  January 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    If you don’t know who the shills are yet, just watch who responds to these comments with denials of such activities.

  6. The Reminder  January 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Oh yes Virginia, there is organized crime that wears white collars. They have protection from the courts of law, because they have friends in high places.
    They have a symbiotic relationship with state legislators and Governors, thus they get the appointments and protection they need. They usually own the local newspapers and have shills from both parties to redirect the public’s attention.

  7. The Reminder  January 9, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    I have done no research on the subject, but from reading stories about corrupt administrators, there appears to be a club of these types that get hired by communities to run things. They favor the special interests as long as they can get away with it. Then when they get exposed they move away with a non-disclosure agreement they signed at the time they were hired and they get to put that notch on their resume for another position of like kind. The next community they go to gets the same results as the last. Those type of Admins are professional travelers. I suspect Jon already has the names and their resumes waiting for the opportunity to get one installed.

  8. susanp  January 9, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    Look for my name in the World paper as the leader of, or follower of a great leader, who will get a recall measure on the earliest ballot advocating removal of Sweet and or Cribbins if they ignore the voice of the solid majority of county voters who rejected a county administrator by any name. Sweet has stated that he will respect the will of the majority.I voted for him; I believe him. Cribbins, who the tribe claims is still their lawyer, who is still involved in her potato vodka venture, who may still be on the North Bend water board, appears to have an agenda that may include hiring a county manager. It would be nice if you daily court house visitors report from time to time how often she makes an appearance at the building and for how many hours daily. “FULL TIME” neads no definition.

    • The Reminder  January 9, 2013 at 9:22 AM

      Lets hope she didn’t learn her job duties from watching the two temps that preceded her. That would be a recipe for making her a temp like they were. If she is only there to get done the will of SCDC and the tribe, then she could do her damage and get back to representing her clients. If she feels responsible to all of the county citizenry and not just the special interests of the tribe and SCDC, who will profit from having an admin that directs county business towards their members, then she could make it past two years and not damage her family name.
      If she only see’s herself as a tool for their benefit, then its going to be hard for her to watch what will happen to her reputation. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that she will do the job she was elected to do and not hand those duties over to a patsy who will do what Jon wants and then move on with a cushy parachute and a non-disclosure agreement about what they did here when the shite hits the fan.


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