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When my oldest son, a Marine, left for war and crossed the border from Kuwait into Iraq in March 2003 I started writing my conscience. After two tours that young combat veteran, my first born son, is now permanently disabled suffering from post traumatic stress disorder and his mother is now an ardent peace activist. Today I am active with Veterans for Peace, Military Families Speak Out and on the board of Rural Organizing Project Also, I am CEO of Rogue River Wind, Ltd and the inventor of a low profile wind turbine incorporating a high bandwidth relativistic generator

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CPD officer needs ‘charm school’">CPD officer needs ‘charm school’

Gosh, it appears that nerves are a lit­tle raw and at least one Coquille offi­cer is extremely sen­si­tive. Today, Coquille Val­ley Sen­tinel edi­tor, Jean Ivey called the CPD to ask about the National Night Out and why an event billed as a fam­ily event would include a taser demon­stra­tion in full view of small chil­dren. The offi­cer in charge of the event, James Bryant, advised Ivey that the demon­stra­tion showed the pub­lic that any­one shot with a taser could not ‘fight through’ and resist. When Ivey asked what place such a demon­stra­tion had at a fam­ily night out the offi­cer became defen­sive and accused Ivey of being argu­men­ta­tive, refused the inter­view, referred her to Sargeant Smith and hung up the phone. So much for pub­lic outreach.

Ivey imme­di­ately con­tacted Smith who decided to han­dle the mat­ter in per­son and spoke with Ivey at the Sen­tinel offices. “That young man needs to go to charm school”, she said. Smith would not speak for Bryant but did try and explain the demon­stra­tions since Bryant would not. Smith also empha­sized that he was try­ing to build a depart­ment that was more open, com­mu­nica­tive and assess­able to the pub­lic and demon­strated his efforts by address­ing this mat­ter in per­son. Clearly, Smith has an uphill bat­tle with some of the offi­cers he has to work with.

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  1. Big suprise, gee just how did I know that you were gonna turn what was a fun day for all involved into neg­a­tive attack on offi­cer Bryant and the P.D.

    You are becom­ing so pre­dictable. It was pretty damn obvi­ous that you were only there to find some­thing to use against them.

    It just kills you to com­pli­ment offi­cer Bryant does’nt it? He busted his ass to make that day hap­pened and all you can do is make him a bad guy, yet again. If you would have looked around at the kids and other peo­ple there you would have noticed every­body enjoy­ing them­selves and hav­ing a damn good time. Instead you chose to look for ammu­ni­tion to use for your lit­tle crusade.

    You really think your some­thin don’t you? with your lit­tle cam­era and your note­book and your lit­tle inter­veiws with the taser par­tic­i­pants, its Mike Fjeld by the way you might want to pay closer atten­tion when using people’s names. Get over your­self your not some hot­shot inves­tiga­tive reporter. Just cause you and a mil­lion other peo­ple have a blog page and a weekly news­pa­per col­umn does’nt mean you are impor­tant. It means you have noth­ing bet­ter to do than sit on your ass all day and write neg­a­tive bull­shit about peo­ple who actu­ally work for a liv­ing and make peo­ple sick who pass you on your lit­tle bike rides.

    Nobody but you and your lit­tle side­kicks thought neg­a­tively of the event. peo­ple I over­heard talk­ing thought Offi­cer Bryant orga­nized a won­der­ful event and I agree. If all you are gonna do is look for bad things why don’t you just stay in your lit­tle com­puter chair and quit com­ing to pub­lic events, nobody wants to see you in your see thru shirts with a black bra any­way. That was way more offen­sive to a fam­ily event than any taser demo could ever be, not to men­tion just gross and tacky.

    Have a nice day.

  2. My, my, my.… when did I crit­i­cize the event? Not once. Nor did Jean Ivey for that mat­ter. She only brought up ques­tions that had arisen from the pub­lic and hoped to obtain an answer to report it in the paper.

    Are you guys really so sen­si­tive you can’t answer a few ques­tions? Do you ALWAYS have to go on the attack to pro­tect your­selves? Are your egos really that frag­ile? Obvi­ously, yes. Maybe that explains why that offi­cer car­ries his pecker exten­der on his hip off duty.

    I didn’t hang up on Ivey, I just reported it. If you are wor­ried about the image of the depart­ment try build­ing up its char­ac­ter and the image will improve along with it. Your whin­ing just per­pet­u­ates the dark side… you are not help­ing your beloved CPD.

  3. flamelick, we’ve missed ya sweetie, where ya’all been? Eatin lots of sugar there, yer just as sweet as ever.

    Try dis­cus­sion some­time, it just might ben­e­fit ya. Maybe that’s what the prob­lem is, ya do just fine in secret.……just not too good with the light of day.

    Grow up and at least TRY to act adult, it would help ya immensely, and make this sooooo much more fun for the adults here.

    What’cha think ?

    Or do you?

  4. What a hate-on ya got going there, I’m amazed, read yer let­ter again, what the hell ya hung up on see through shirts and black bras?

    Maybe ya outta try it, seem to have a lit­tle prob­lem in that depart­ment? LIke I’ve stated before online, some on the right just resent the hell out of the lefts’ abil­ity to enjoy them­selves. I fear this is what we have here. Maybe a black bra would do won­ders for ya, AND those around ya? Seem awfully uptight there, and really jeal­ous, aren’t we? Tut tut tut.

    Try enjoy­ing some­thing for a change. You know, a “vir­gin” expe­ri­ence, methinks yer just too too frus­trated for yer own good.

    shame on you and yer per­sonal attacks on a fel­low citizen.

    Tasers at a fam­ily “fun fest”?

    Yeah, show the kid­dies how Daddy elec­tro­cutes his friends at work, yup, great learn­ing adven­ture in that one. Never heard of such a thing.

    HEY, I just thought of some­thing, per­haps next yer he could actu­ally set up a gal­lows, you know? Show the kid­dies how to to break a mans’ neck , only do it in public?

    I sup­pose you think that would be fun too?

  5. Best just to ignore this. Flamelick, et al only reaf­firm the worst opin­ions peo­ple have about police in gen­eral every­where. Only one offi­cer rep­re­sented him­self and the depart­ment pro­fes­sion­ally and he wasn’t afraid to use his real name. He may hate me just as much as the oth­ers but he hasn’t made the depart­ment look bad in the process.

    What we glean from these out­bursts is that the CPD are very inse­cure, surly, rude and unde­serv­ing of the trust the pub­lic has placed in them AND pays them for. Also, sev­eral of them seem to be mar­ried to neu­rotic, emo­tional wives who can’t spell and use bad gram­mar. What is the point of pre­sent­ing that face to the public?

    By the way, if it were my aim to embar­rass the depart­ment I could have done so on sev­eral occa­sions includ­ing just recently. The depart­ment embar­rasses itself, I don’t have to do anything.

    Cit­i­zens are watch­ing the offi­cers, one or two in particular…

  6. Are you guys really so sen­si­tive you can’t answer a few ques­tions? Do you ALWAYS have to go on the attack to pro­tect your­selves? Are your egos really that frag­ile? Obvi­ously, yes. Maybe that explains why that offi­cer car­ries his pecker exten­der on his hip off duty.”

    Who is you guys and your­selves that you refer to? you seem to think you know who I am so why don’t you take a stab at it. I bet you think I’m an Offi­cer for CPD or the wife of one don’t you? News flash bitch, not every­one that dis­agrees with you idiots is an offi­cer or wife of one.

    Themguys, You made men­tion of being jeal­ous, now you made me laugh. I thank god that I am noth­ing remotely like you, cause I would have to kill myself if I was. Do you guys really think any­thing you do is mak­ing a dif­fer­ence or help­ing any­one? You do it all for you, no one else. why don’t you admit it? You are not tryin to help this com­mu­nity, your tryin to get your name in the news. Noth­ing more than an atten­tion whores.

    HEY, I just thought of some­thing, per­haps next yer he could actu­ally set up a gal­lows, you know? Show the kid­dies how to to break a mans’ neck , only do it in public?

    I sup­pose you think that would be fun too?”

    Only if it was you Sweetie!!

    Magix, once again in your last post you seem to think I’m an offi­cer. Hate to dis­ap­point you idiot, I’m not an offi­cer. I am a guy who breaks his back six days a week work­ing on logtrucks. I do it so I can raise my fam­ily in a coun­try that fuck­sticks like you and your girl­friends are ruin­ing with your dum­b­ass agendas.

    I will tell you I am the brother of one of the wives of the P.D. I would ask that you watch what you say about them. I have never said any­thing about your fam­ily when I could have so you don’t need to either.

    I guess you would no somthing about embar­rass­ing peo­ple would’nt you? Prac­tice makes perfect!!

  7. No one gives a damn whether you’re a cop or not, defend­ing them in the man­ner that you do DOES NOT HELP their image or yours either. The lan­guage you use, the tone of your com­ments speak poorly for the depart­ment, par­tic­u­larly if they are rep­re­sen­ta­tive of the depart­ment, the wives, etc.… You exem­plify the very things peo­ple object to about the depart­ment —- You are not help­ing them, I assure you.

    Lis­ten, no one whose opin­ion I value regards your crude lan­guage and obser­va­tions highly. If you don’t like what is said here, don’t read what is said here.

  8. Wow, what a piece of work this one is. I’m not buy­ing it. What a sad F.

    You talk about a woman’s per­sonal cloth­ing, when you’ve never met her, what gives you the right? Why are you even here? You obvi­ously hate women, per­haps your time would be bet­ter spent on ther­apy big guy, what’cha think? If I’ve ever seen a bas­ket case of hate, it be you.

    Let’s see your expan­sive use of the Eng­lish language:

    Bitch
    Whores
    Idiot
    Fuck­sticks
    Dumbass

    Boy, you’ve mas­tered Eng­lish real well, must be real proud of yer­self, Gawd I hope you don’t have a wife, poor thing if you do. Has any­one told her you hate women? I mean really, really hate women?

    How dare you threaten us or any other woman like you did. I bet­ter be care­ful about crit­i­ciz­ing the police? What they gonna do big guy, break my neck? Ooops, been there done that.

    Grow up, if you have some­thing intel­li­gent to say come back some­time, if you just want to get yer hate-on of women ? Go some­where else.

    Did you come here to dis­cuss some­thing or just hide behind a fake name and call women you don’t even know names?

    Hum, let me guess.

    Ya need to tighten them thar sus­penders fella, yer big ol big­ot­ted arse is a showin.

    I think yer a very dan­ger­ous person.

    Care to dis­cuss rude cops or just want to be rude?

  9. I read recently over 300 peo­ple have been elec­tro­cuted to the point of death with tasers, I’m going to see if that’s true or not. I believe tasers are used because cops are not get­ting proper train­ing, it’s no longer the last , it’s the first defense for the cops. No nego­ti­at­ing, no stand-offs, no phone calls, no sit­ting out the night wait­ing for some­one to pass out before storm­ing them, a lazy, une­d­u­cated, fear­ful cop will elec­tro­cute first, ask ques­tions later.

    A per­fect tool for fright­ened, lazy cops.

    For this to be included in a com­mu­nity night out is just the most igno­rant thing I’ve heard recently. Espe­cially with a PD embroiled in so much con­tro­versy to begin with.

    Some­one didn’t think that one through. I would have raised hell had my young chil­dren been exposed to Legal Tor­ture Tech­niques, period.

  10. Hey themguys, what is really wor­ri­some here is that if an offi­cer like Bryant can’t keep his cool dur­ing an inter­view with the paper how are we to be assured that he can keep his cool dur­ing the line of duty.… oh, wait, we know how that can turn out don’t we?

    flamelick is a cop or a wife or both and the char­ac­ter reflected by the com­ments here, the com­ments of another wife pre­vi­ously and the com­ments made by the wife of the out­go­ing police chief about inmates wear­ing pink under­wear are indica­tive of a very igno­rant view­point. Cer­tainly not any view­point any city would be proud to have published.

  11. I think so too, just waaay too much emo­tion over the issue. Just like Bryant, if he can’t cite ya, arrest ya, taser ya, drop ya, hit ya, he sim­ply doesn’t know WHAT to do !

    Seems to have lost all rea­son­ing skills, cer­tainly ver­bal ones.

    I had boy cousins like that, bul­lies one and all. I’m afraid if he stays in this line of work somebody’s going to get.….….….….….….……

    Sorry, I always for­get, he already has.

    Bet­ter work on that if you’re related to him flamelick. The boys not right.

  12. Well as usual you have it all wrong themguys. I don’t hate woman. I hate you two, and I’m not to sure you are women any­way. What makes you think I’ve never met her anyway?

    I do have a wife and she is treated very well. Per­haps your a lit­tle jeal­ous, aren’t you? Tut tut tut.

    I don’t recall threat­en­ing any­one by the way. I merely asked you not talk about my fam­ily, mean­ing my sis­ter not the police. Read it again.

    You must have been behind Mary when you seen the big’ol arse and the dan­ger­ous person.

    Mary, read this very slowly so you might under­stand; I AM NOT A COP YOU IDIOT!!!! Thats right I said idiot again. I put tires on logtrucks I don’t put your friends in jail when they do stu­pid things. Wich lets face it, thats what your prob­lem is anyway.

    If you don’t like hap­pens in this town, don’t live in this town. Please!!!

  13. OOooooohh­h­h­hhh, the last bas­tion of an idiot.

    Call names.

    Insult.

    Do not dis­cuss rationally.

    Why are you here flamelick? What is yer prob­lem? Yeah, I just bet yer wife is treated really well. No man that can’t respect a woman is a man no woman should have to live with.

    Is it that Magix is doing some­thing? Any­thing? Is it her black bra under a shirt, which if you’d been out­side yer county there Goober in the last few years, is quite chic. That’s chic Goob, not chic as in chicken. Obvi­ously this is a lost cause.

    And yeah, you did threaten there big guy, with yer “I would ask that you watch what you say about them.” That’s a threat whether you want to rec­og­nize it as such. Bet­ter be care­ful there .

    You drip with envy of the fact a fel­low cit­i­zen calls a spade a spade , and does it hon­estly and above board.

    Elec­tro­cut­ing a human in front of chil­dren was a stu­pid, moronic , thought­less piece of crap.

    And if yer point in response to my state­ment of why don’t you just hang some­one in pub­lic was to say “if it was you”. IS a threat, and I took it that way. Bet­ter smart up a lit­tle there. You’re get­ting into dan­ger­ous ter­ri­tory there.

    Grow up, edu­cate your­self, accept the fact women are just as, if not more, smart as you and have every right to call out a pompous , igno­rant , arro­gant cop if need be. Bryant is full of rage, and other peo­ple pay the price for his rage. Boy needs ther­apy and quick. If not, I fear where he’s heading.

  14. Hap­pily, I am aware that the PD sin­cerely wants to improve rela­tions with the pub­lic and made earnest efforts to ‘mend fences’. Since com­ments made by ‘flamelick’ do not aid and abet that effort and to avert any fur­ther dam­age that may be done to the department’s rep­u­ta­tion by this poster, I have ter­mi­nated flamelick’s post­ing privileges.

    We are all opti­mistic that the new police chief will usher in an era of com­mu­ni­ca­tion and mutual respect between the offi­cers and the tax­payer… let us not make it any harder than it already is by per­pet­u­at­ing com­men­tary like flamelick’s above…

    thanks

  15. I agree Magix, good call. I do believe a fresh start is going to help most of the depart­ment, and hope­fully the cit­i­zens of Coquille and their visitors.

  16. THIS is what a prop­erly func­tion­ing Police Dept. does when they have an out of con­trol cop:

    http://www.wyff4.com/news/17136655/detail.html

    Coquille? Naw.….….….….…

  17. Should have said : For­mally wouldn’t have done.

    I do sin­cerely hope the new Depart­ment will be one the cit­i­zens work with, not be fear­ful from.

  18. Yes, I am inclined to be opti­mistic that a new chief will raise the bar not just in the PD but within all of city hall. Only in Coquille can some­one have their char­ac­ter maligned sim­ply for apply­ing for a police chief job or be ridiculed for try­ing to live a healthy lifestyle and rid­ing a bike… (prob­a­bly by a smoker no less).

    Any­way, Dan­nels, the incom­ing chief, is highly edu­cated and has been exposed to dif­fer­ent man­age­ment philoso­phies. With luck, he can teach his staff more effec­tive ways of han­dling dis­agree­ments and improv­ing pub­lic image. Plus, he is in to soc­cer which is one of my favorite sports.

  19. Hi all…magix…good call on flamelick. I believe I know exactly who he is…and I’m amazed and sad that he has come to this posi­tion in his life.

    I have a great deal of hope for Coquille with the new Chief.

    Offi­cer Bryant is a lit­tle badge heavy, but hope­fully, if the new chief is as skilled as they say in man­age­ment philoso­phies, he will retrain Bryant to be a human and not Robocop.

    And I still think Sgt Smith is the bomb. He’s a good guy.

  20. Hi PM,

    We do know who flamelick is. flamelick has been ‘made’ as they say and is actu­ally a com­pos­ite per­son­al­ity ema­nat­ing from one house­hold or fam­ily rather. Yes, it is rather sad.

    Smith has assured me that he is stay­ing, going to com­plete his degree and get some men­tor­ing from the new guy. Then in a few years he may be our police chief.

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